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Folknology
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Re: XMOS.com has had an update - check it out

Postby Folknology » Fri Oct 22, 2010 10:39 pm

I would'nt classify Xcore as hobbiest either.

Today business isn't just about transactions its about relationships and communities, so differentiating IMHO is a false dichotomy

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Postby huw » Mon Oct 25, 2010 7:37 am

dlopez wrote:Hi,
Might sound dump, but I really can't figure out how to 'subscribe' to some content in order to receive emails when there is an update...

Diego

Select the star (favorite) icon in front of the resource you want to subscribe to, or the Subscribe All option at the bottom of the product page. The resource is added to the Dashboard in your profile where you can elect to receive an email, weekly update or pick the info up online.
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Postby Berni » Mon Oct 25, 2010 8:36 am

I kind of like that the community site is separated from the official site. It makes it feal less strict and more open for hobbyists and such.

I only use the official website to download datasheets and software anyway.
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Postby jason » Mon Oct 25, 2010 9:21 am

Folknology wrote:I would'nt classify Xcore as hobbiest either.

Today business isn't just about transactions its about relationships and communities, so differentiating IMHO is a false dichotomy

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Al
Indeed we certainly have some interesting people from some interesting companies floating about on here too. It wouldn't surprise me if you guys get more freelance work or potentially even job offers in the future as we grow. There have already been a few I believe.
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Postby russf » Tue Oct 26, 2010 9:28 pm

Regulars will have seen my topic posted early today.

http://www.xcore.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=820

I mention it, because it's very relevant to this current thread.

At the moment, I'm very concerned that XMOS is confusing image with substance. I say this after returning from a break working on a different project, and finding a few improvements (XDE updates mainly, better modularity) but a solidly closed front to the community in the areas that really matter: Code and Tickets.

Meanwhile we have two wonderful web sites, that have cost considerable investment. Investment that may have been better spent elsewhere. Feel free to differ on that aspect, but let me make the important point...

If I am to bind my future and the success of my clients to XMOS devices (and now that this is software defined silicon, by extension, XMOS code) then I need XMOS to grow up a little.

I have spent three days working intensively on xtcp, to convince myself that earlier statements by other respected members of this forum are absolutely true. I now fully accept that xtcp is unusable for anything but the most trivial purpose. I find this disgusting, considering that the code has been hanging around on this site for months, it has seen three minor versions, and there have been comments on this forum about its quality in the past.

Looking on the bright side, my three day investment has gained me some real knowledge, and makes me very qualified to turn my back on the whole stack until I see some signs of intelligent life from XMOS.

Intelligent life?

Yes!

Sign #1: Let's see a public tracking entry that acknowledges that packets are dropped all over the place in xtcp, that it's very timing-sensitive, and that it blocks completely after random periods (seconds to a minute). This will save some customers' valuable time, and it will be a place to gather more information.

Sign #2: Let's see the entire source code for the stack moved to github, or similar. (XMOS: Take this message as an offer to setup Subversion, if you prefer. Or go to Netsight in Bristol who will do a wonderful job for you.)

Sign #3: Let's have a public acknowledgement that XMOS will be taking community contributions to that code.

Sign #4: Let's see a representative test suite developed as part of the whole network stack. I expect that suite NOT to work at first, but see the next point -- help is at hand

Sign #5: Let's see step-by-step changes in that codebase, that the community can test and comment on. A true sign of life.

Sign #6: Accept contributions from outside. Work with the community to define the best way forward. We will know this when we see it.

Then continue to release the occasional zip bundle, but keep the core code moving along in the repository, and be proud of the tests that prove XMOS has something to offer.

With apologies, my XMOS haiku of the day....

Code: Select all

I close XDE
XTCP Frustration
Tomorrow brings change
Best wishes,

--r

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